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= Wiki Issues =
 
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== DMCA ==
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[[User:DocOctober|DocOctober]] has added something unusual to the articles [[Grades]] and [[Status HUD]]. At the bottom, under a section titled "DMCA" he includes the text: <blockquote>Copyright 2021 by Doc October. This article is not authorised for posting on Steam as a Guide or other any other similar platforms.</blockquote>
   
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I believe this contravenes Fandom's [https://www.fandom.com/terms-of-use Terms of Use], specifically the [https://www.fandom.com/community-creation-policy Community Creation Policy] and [https://www.fandom.com/licensing Licensing Terms]. Edits to Fandom wikis are always licensed under CC-BY-SA unless '''"explicitly permitted by Fandom, inc"'''. The edit window even says "Please note that all contributions to the Dead by Daylight Wiki are considered to be released under the CC BY-NC-SA 3.0". DocOctober is of course entitled to ask that his work not be shared without attribution, or for any commercial purpose, as are we all. He is ''not'' entitled to treat his contributions to this project as his own exclusive intellectual property, or to issue DMCA takedown requests, because he has already released them under a Creative Commons license. To do so is an abuse of the DMCA and of his position within this community.
== Huntress Movement Speed with Shiny Pin ==
 
 
https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Movement_Speeds#Hunting_Hatchets
 
 
The Shiny Pin movement speed calculation was done assuming Huntress is a 4.6m/s killer.
 
   
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Two users previously commented on this situation on [[Talk:Grades]]. DocOctober's response was [https://deadbydaylight.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Grades?diff=107480&oldid=107476 rather curt]. I am acutely aware that DocOctober is a key contributor to this project, which is why I find this behavior so disconcerting and why I hope an appropriate and agreeable solution can be reached without drama.
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I don't intend to participate in any kind of debate over this, since I think I've done my part. However, I do think [[User:Tagaziel|Tagaziel]]'s input would be invaluable and I may express my concerns to Fandom directly via email if this avenue proves unproductive.
   
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Again, my sincere hope is for a sensible and agreeable resolution. -[[User:Rutebega|Rutebega]] ([[User talk:Rutebega|talk]]) 06:18, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
The Windup with no addons is: 3.08 (x0.70) - Calculated using 4.4m/s
 
   
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:I'm very much entitled to the intellectual property of my wording and phrasing of Wiki articles, even under the Creative Commons licence. The DMCAs that I added were a TEMPORARY notice, suggested to be added by the Steam Support in cases of people literally copy-pasting Wiki articles as Steam Guides without giving proper accreditation (a violation of the Creative Commons licence, btw). The temporary DMCA allows the Steam moderators to remove Steam Guides that are literal copy-pastes without much fuss. I did plan on removing the DMCA again once the fraudulent Steam Guides were removed. If you feared I would slam every single article with a DMCA notice, you're seriously mistaken and overreacting.
But the page says with shiny pin it is: 3.45 (x0.75) - Calculated using 4.6m/s
 
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Again, I followed the guidelines of the Steam support to resolve an issue swiftly and as easily as possible. People are allowed to quote the Wiki, I'm not disputing that and I take no issue with it. However, doing so requires that you give credit to either the Wiki as a whole or the author of the Wiki article you quote, and none of the Steam Guides in question did that, violating both the Creative Commons licence, as well as Steam Guidelines. You too mention that "[I am] of course entitled to ask that [my] work not be shared without attribution, or for any commercial purpose." That is exactly what I did, not more, not less.
   
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:I'll go ahead and remove the DMCA notices, the Guides have been removed in the mean time.
   
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:Also, I'm usually curt, I have little patience with people trying to interfere with stuff that is none of their business in the first place. If you knew me better, you'd know that.
I didn't want to correct it just in case the description is wrong or I am calculating the speed incorrectly.
 
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[[User:DocOctober|Doc]] ([[User talk:DocOctober|talk]]) 07:22, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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DMCA

DocOctober has added something unusual to the articles Grades and Status HUD. At the bottom, under a section titled "DMCA" he includes the text:

Copyright 2021 by Doc October. This article is not authorised for posting on Steam as a Guide or other any other similar platforms.

I believe this contravenes Fandom's Terms of Use, specifically the Community Creation Policy and Licensing Terms. Edits to Fandom wikis are always licensed under CC-BY-SA unless "explicitly permitted by Fandom, inc". The edit window even says "Please note that all contributions to the Dead by Daylight Wiki are considered to be released under the CC BY-NC-SA 3.0". DocOctober is of course entitled to ask that his work not be shared without attribution, or for any commercial purpose, as are we all. He is not entitled to treat his contributions to this project as his own exclusive intellectual property, or to issue DMCA takedown requests, because he has already released them under a Creative Commons license. To do so is an abuse of the DMCA and of his position within this community.

Two users previously commented on this situation on Talk:Grades. DocOctober's response was rather curt. I am acutely aware that DocOctober is a key contributor to this project, which is why I find this behavior so disconcerting and why I hope an appropriate and agreeable solution can be reached without drama. I don't intend to participate in any kind of debate over this, since I think I've done my part. However, I do think Tagaziel's input would be invaluable and I may express my concerns to Fandom directly via email if this avenue proves unproductive.

Again, my sincere hope is for a sensible and agreeable resolution. -Rutebega (talk) 06:18, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm very much entitled to the intellectual property of my wording and phrasing of Wiki articles, even under the Creative Commons licence. The DMCAs that I added were a TEMPORARY notice, suggested to be added by the Steam Support in cases of people literally copy-pasting Wiki articles as Steam Guides without giving proper accreditation (a violation of the Creative Commons licence, btw). The temporary DMCA allows the Steam moderators to remove Steam Guides that are literal copy-pastes without much fuss. I did plan on removing the DMCA again once the fraudulent Steam Guides were removed. If you feared I would slam every single article with a DMCA notice, you're seriously mistaken and overreacting.

Again, I followed the guidelines of the Steam support to resolve an issue swiftly and as easily as possible. People are allowed to quote the Wiki, I'm not disputing that and I take no issue with it. However, doing so requires that you give credit to either the Wiki as a whole or the author of the Wiki article you quote, and none of the Steam Guides in question did that, violating both the Creative Commons licence, as well as Steam Guidelines. You too mention that "[I am] of course entitled to ask that [my] work not be shared without attribution, or for any commercial purpose." That is exactly what I did, not more, not less.

I'll go ahead and remove the DMCA notices, the Guides have been removed in the mean time.
Also, I'm usually curt, I have little patience with people trying to interfere with stuff that is none of their business in the first place. If you knew me better, you'd know that.

Doc (talk) 07:22, 1 October 2021 (UTC)